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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Thu 20. Mar 2008, 18:45

Hey guys, i have to copy MLS because i have a course at university called Sociology of political economical development and we are asked to do an assignment on something so i choose to use post pulse america as an example. This is my proposal, tell me what you guys think.

"Dark Angel is an American cyberpunk science fiction television program, created by academy award winning director James Cameron and Charles H. Eglee, which ran from 2000 to 2002 on the FOX network. The series begins in the year 2009, a genetically enhanced, 9-year-old female super-soldier who calls herself Max Guevara (player by Jessica Alba), escapes along with eleven others like her from a secret government institution. At the institution, codenamed Manticore, they were created and subsequently raised and trained to be soldiers and assassins. On June 1, 2009, months after Max's escape, terrorists detonate an electromagnetic pulse weapon in the atmosphere over the U.S., which destroys the vast majority of computer and communication systems and infrastructures, throwing the country into utter chaos and turning the once superpower to a 3rd world country over night. But this seemingly science fiction story has much more than meets the eye. It gives us a glimpse of what could happen, socially, economically and culturally to a country which was at the top of the world economy than suddenly been turned into an under developed country.

In my assignment I would like to use the post-modern Dark Age setting of Dark Angel and compare it to similar situations. First of all to prove that the 2 development theories – Modernization theory and vulgar Marxist theory are not evolutionary and that they can fall back some stages and with this stress the Further disillusion of these theories. I will also compare it to economies like those of the Socialist USSR and the USA during the Cold war, Cuba after 1959, and so on. But with these comparisons I will also see what’s in the future for the post-pulse world of Dark Angel by comparing it to the current development of under developed economies like those of Communist China today."
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Postby hedghehog » Fri 21. Mar 2008, 15:08

nice intro,and the best thing to use is the sentence from the beginning of the pilot when Max is ridding trough the hood and she says that people are broke but not sad or depressed,like they all have loosed some large burden.
They no longer need to think about getting as much money as they can or pursue carrier and work like mindless idiots for some job they dont even like,sure the world is tough but its all back to basics now,and thats why people aren't that sad.
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Fri 21. Mar 2008, 17:33

hmmm, good point, thats a really good way to end the whole assignment.
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Postby darkjak » Fri 21. Mar 2008, 19:01

hedghehog wrote:nice intro,and the best thing to use is the sentence from the beginning of the pilot when Max is ridding trough the hood and she says that people are broke but not sad or depressed,like they all have loosed some large burden.
They no longer need to think about getting as much money as they can or pursue carrier and work like mindless idiots for some job they dont even like,sure the world is tough but its all back to basics now,and thats why people aren't that sad.

It's an interresting point of view, but one burden's just been replaced by another. They can't pursuit some career they don't want- they have to. And in the post pulse world we're not talking about some career that's well paid, they'll be fighting for one that even lets them get by.

If we look at eastern europe, people back in the cold ware were used to that they allways will have a job, because the communist governments would give it to them. Companies were funded, even though noone wanted what they manufactured (my mum told me that the grocerie stores had lots of bottles containing vinnegar for people who wanted to pickle something, but the shelves were allways full because noone was allowed to buy enough of anything to pickle it.). And now, when there's capitalism, and some companies have to close down. No one pays them for the ridiculous jobs that they once did (like for example, as my father told me, when he went to poland, there were these three guys from different departments who each sat in a different boot, one after another, who all had to check the same things in his passport, and put their stamps in, even though it would be much more efficient to just have one), so now they're unemployed. The lack of companies that survive the pulse, and the abundance of workers would mean a powerful decrease in payment.

Considering that the ammount of US dollars in existence would powerfully decrease, the pulse might cause a powerful deflation of the USD. However the ammount of destroyed computers and equipment would mean that the deflation would be partly, if not entirelly eaten by inflation.

In a post pulse america, poverty would be wide spread. America would perhaps have to buy practically everything from abroad since all their own stuff will be destroyed. There would be practically no american industries after the pulse, nor would there be anyone developing anything. Perhaps there would be a food industry, and once poor companies that had used really old gear at the time of the pulse would all of a sudden have a monompoly on whaterver they were making.
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Fri 21. Mar 2008, 19:16

hmmm, great points darkjak. I didn't totally understand this one
However the ammount of destroyed computers and equipment would mean that the deflation would be partly, if not entirelly eaten by inflation.


But i do see a comparison with post puls america and eastern europe during the cold war, mainly the 70s and 80s, and i'll like to explore this issue more deeply in my assignment.
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Postby moonlitestar » Sat 22. Mar 2008, 01:24

hehe us dark angel fans using it for school. :D who would have thought that dark angel could be educational!

i think darkjak's saying since the # of USD would decrease, the value of the USD would increase. Yet, because computers and equipment destroyed, the increase in value would be nulled by inflation of goods.

It's actually hard to understand/predict what the world's like post pulse, in my opinion. For my fanfic, which I have not written in in ages, I'm trying to design missions for the soldiers to go on, but I have no idea what the political structure is around the world in 2020. makes it difficult to figure out what they can and cannot do. -_-

I think your paper will be interesting! Post it here when you finish? How long does it have to be?
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Sat 22. Mar 2008, 01:31

Well this started out as one american student wanted to do her's on some smuggling guns movie, and i thought, "hey, Dark Angel is way more interesting and more fitting to this subject", so i asked my lecturer if i could do it, and he asked me to write a proposal, and as they say, the rest is history.

i will post it here for sure. You should post you DA assignment too.

Well, about the length of it, our lecturer didn't really say, its for our final mark, so probably about over 3000 words, would be appropiate. He sujested the notion of quality rather than quantity.
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Postby rantanplan » Sun 23. Mar 2008, 21:52

good idea to use DA for your work... .

allthings seems turn aroud DA, for us! lol.

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Postby moonlitestar » Wed 26. Mar 2008, 00:24

yeah...i will post mine soon enoguh...hmm ill do it now. :)
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Fri 28. Mar 2008, 16:34

these are some comparisons i found so far, read amd comment:

Police state
The government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population, especially by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional republic. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.

Police states are authoritarian, and are often dictatorship.
The South African apartheid system is generally considered to have been a police state despite having been nominally a democracy.

Nazi Germany, a dictatorship, was, at least initially, brought into being through a nominal democracy. Many social critics believe that the United States is becoming a police state with the passage of laws such as the USA PATRIOT Act (The Act expanded the authority of U.S. law enforcement agencies for the stated purpose of fighting terrorism in the United States and abroad. Among its provisions, the Act increased the ability of law enforcement agencies to search telephone and e-mail communications and medical, financial and other records; eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and enhanced the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include "domestic terrorism," thus enlarging the number of activities to which the Patriot Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied - Act of Congress that United States President George W. Bush signed into law on October 26, 2001) and the Military Commissions Act (The United States Military Commissions Act of 2006 signed by President George W. Bush on October 17, 2006. Drafted in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision on Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the Act's stated purpose is "To authorize trial by military commission for violations of the law of war, and for other purposes.")

Many people believe that the United Kingdom and the United States are heading in the direction of becoming police states. A growing population of people in these countries feel that erosion of civil liberties and the movement of decision making away from Parliament or Congress to the executive is a disturbing trend. Recent laws passed in these countries allow for the total surveillance of civil society. The right to protest has been eroded and free speech has been curtailed. Many feel that anti-terror legislation is a guise in order for the UK and USA to become Police states and hold absolute authority over their citizens.

Fictional police states
George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four
The graphic novel V for Vendetta

Martial law is the system of rules that takes effect when the military takes control of the normal administration of justice.

Australia - 1804 during the Castle Hill convict rebellion
People's Republic of China - 1989 - invoked the martial law clause to allow the military to stage a crackdown on Tiananmen Square protesters

Yugoslav Wars in 1991

The divided city

Post WW2 Berlin
By the end of the Second World War, up to a third of Berlin had been destroyed by concerted Allied air raids and street fighting. The so called "Stunde Null" marked a new beginning for the city. Greater Berlin was divided into four sectors by the Allies under the London Protocol of 1944

Berlin Wall - The East German government called the Wall the "anti-fascist protection wall"

BAGHDAD, Iraq 2005
deploy 40,000 police and soldiers in the capital, ringing it with hundreds of checkpoints "like a bracelet" in the largest show of Iraqi force since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

23 controlled entry points
675 checkpoints along with mobile checkpoints
Baghdad would be divided into two sectors, Karkh on the west bank of the Tigris river that separates the city, and Risafa on the east. Karkh would be divided into 15 sub-districts and Risafa into seven sub-districts. Police and emergency personnel would operate in Baghdad 24 hours a day.
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Mon 31. Mar 2008, 12:02

so, any comments?
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Mon 14. Apr 2008, 20:59

just to give you guys a sample:

One reason why Dark Angel was eventually cancled after season 2 was the September 11, 2001 attacks on the USA. The 9/11 attacks happened in between season 1 and season 2 of Dark Angel and season 2 was drastically change because of this event, which forced the show to downplay its post-apocalyptic setting as the whole setting of the show is based on a terrorist attack on the US. Jessica Alba is quoted in saying that she knows that one reason why the show was cancelled was "political". After 9/11, the U.S. government increased military operations, economic measures and political pressure on groups it accused of being terrorists, as well as on governments and countries accused of sheltering them. 9/11 also caused a focus on domestic security issues and the creation of a new cabinet-level federal agency, the Department of Homeland Security. The USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 was passed soon after the attacks, giving law enforcement agencies sweeping search and surveillance powers over U.S citizens. MPDC Chief Charles Ramsey made the point clear before the state funeral of former U.S. president Ronald Reagan: "In a post 9/11 world we have to be very concerned about that and aware of the potential for something to happen." This situation is mirrored in the post pulse America of Dark Angel (even though Dark Angel was concieved before the 9/11 attacks happened!). Domestic security became a BIG issue. Imposed Marshal Law, police surveillance, Sector passes, check points and curfews all became part of everyday life.

It seems that no one claimed responsablity for the Pulse attack as they never say who was responible in the show, even though most people think it was the "Arabs". This is what is different from the 9/11 attacks and the Pulse attack of Dark Angel. We do know who did the 9/11 attacks. Osama Bin Laden openly admitted to them, and this gave way for the so called "War on terrorisim". So presumingly this couldn't be the same case for Dark Angel. So the US government's attention was more turned inward.

The 9/11 attacks had significant economic repercussions for the United States and world markets as must have been the same for the Pulse attack in 2009. The New York Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange and NASDAQ did not open on September 11 2001 and remained closed until September 17. When the stock markets did reopened on September 17, 2001, after the longest closure since the Great Depression in 1933, the Dow Jones Industrial Average stock market index fell 684 points, or 7.1%, to 8920, its biggest-ever one-day point decline. By the end of the week, the DJIA had fallen 1369.7 points (14.3%), its largest one-week point drop in history. U.S. stocks lost $1.2 trillion in value for the week. New York Stock Exchange facilities and remote data processing sites were not damaged by the attack, but unfortunetly this wasn't the case for the Pulse attack.

So when the "Nuclear burst fries all the computers and satellites, turns the Information Age into the Stone Age overnight" it was probably total chaos. As the USA econamy was one of the top econamies at the time, this must of had a major Global effect too. As the US econamy surly went straight down hill, all the large Trans national companies must of have moved out of the US and leaving the US owned and based campanies to either join the multi national campanies and move out of the US or become bankrupted or sell their assests to forign investers. Just like with the 9/11 attacks led to decreased travel, and as of 2006, the U.S. airline industry has not fully recovered, this must have been the case for Post-Pulse America.
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Postby Saahm23 » Mon 14. Apr 2008, 22:25

Yes that's good Dean. There are many analogy, interesting to read i like the facts
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Postby gtf_dean_fenech » Mon 14. Apr 2008, 22:28

thats really a sample piece. We had to present a sample so thats what i did. As i really start to write the thing as a whole, after i've gotten all my research it will probably be a bit different.

Feel free to leave and discuss about these issues, it will only enrich my assignment.
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Postby darkjak » Thu 17. Apr 2008, 22:07

I'm myself currently working on Image Telling class. I've decided to portray a soldier who during a war makes contact with allied genetically engineered supersoldiers.
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